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What about if we wipe out manufacturing jobs in America? You think that’s a good idea? No, Bernie, I don’t think that’s a good idea.<\/p>\n

Should your kid get hooked up with an AI bot? No, Bernie, that’s dangerous. I’m scared about that.<\/p>\n

What about having your privacy completely invaded? Is that a good idea? No. I treasure my privacy. All right.<\/p>\n

How, in the face of AI, do we deal with all of those issues? If you say to people, \u201cGuess what? You\u2019re working 50 hours a week now, 40 hours a week. We\u2019re gonna lower your work week to 20, 30 hours, and you’re gonna get the same pay. How’s that?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cHey, I\u2019m in for that.\u201d<\/p>\n

I mean, I’m in for that.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yeah. Well, so is everybody else.<\/p>\n

I do really like working, but point taken.<\/strong><\/p>\n

We\u2019ll allow you to work longer hours.<\/p>\n

Thank you.<\/strong><\/p>\n

But if AI is going to create wealth, should that wealth benefit you and everybody else, and my grandchildren? Or just Mr. Musk and his friends? You know, I think 90 percent of the people are on our side in answering that question.<\/p>\n

I know you don\u2019t spend much time with the Musks of the world \u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n

You don\u2019t, but you did spend some time with Sam Altman recently. I think you spent an hour together talking, in particular, about the sovereign wealth fund proposal. You said Altman was, quote, \u201cNot enthusiastic about the idea.\u201d You also characterized him as a good politician.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yeah.<\/p>\n

What were your impressions of him when you met?<\/strong><\/p>\n

He\u2019s a smart guy.<\/p>\n

Smart guy?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yeah, very smart guy, and he\u2019s very personable, and I think he\u2019s a good salesman, that\u2019s what he does.<\/p>\n

I think a good politician as well. These are smart guys. They were trying to tell us a couple of years ago, \u201cOh, AI is so great. It\u2019s so wonderful. Everybody\u2019s gonna benefit.\u201d And now they\u2019re seeing people increasingly do not believe that.<\/p>\n

So you\u2019re sitting there, you\u2019re Sam, and some of these guys, \u201cWell, what\u2019s your response?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWell, what am I gonna \u2026 I gotta give the American people something. Guess what? We\u2019re gonna give you 5 percent of the benefits of the thing. \u2019Cause we\u2019re nice guys. Just out of the goodness of our own heart.\u201d<\/p>\n

So they\u2019re gonna have to figure out how they can sell their product and their transformation to the American people, and that\u2019s one way. Trump is the same way. You know, I don’t believe a word that Trump says. But after I made that [sovereign wealth fund] announcement, he came on, \u201cOh, it\u2019s an interesting idea.\u201d<\/p>\n

Is there a world where the Altmans, the tech companies, get there before lawmakers, where they realize that they have such a serious optics problem that they need to do more than they\u2019re doing to appease the American public?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think you\u2019ll see that happening. But the issue is not just, \u201cOK, you forced me. I\u2019m gonna give you a couple thousand dollars a year. You got it.\u201d The issue is power.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n


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