{"id":5460,"date":"2026-08-14T02:38:01","date_gmt":"2026-08-14T02:38:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=5460"},"modified":"2026-08-14T02:38:01","modified_gmt":"2026-08-14T02:38:01","slug":"apple-epic-games-external-links-fees-filing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=5460","title":{"rendered":"Apple and Epic argue over how much Apple should get from purchases made outside the App Store"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">In a new filing in its long-running legal dispute with Epic Games, Apple has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/28554499-defendant-apple-incs-remand-proffer\/\">proposed a structure<\/a> that would allow it to collect fees on digital purchases made via external links that don\u2019t use the company\u2019s in-app purchase system. Epic has already responded, saying that Apple\u2019s request is \u201cfar outside of the bounds\u201d of the court\u2019s guidance.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">Right now, Apple cannot take a commission on external purchases after California district court judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers ruled in April 2025 that found the company <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/659246\/apple-epic-app-store-judge-ruling-control\">\u201cwillfully\u201d didn\u2019t comply<\/a> with her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/9\/12\/22667694\/epic-v-apple-trial-fortnite-judge-yvonne-gonzalez-rogers-final-ruling-injunction-breakdown\">2021 <em>Epic Games v. Apple<\/em> injunction<\/a>. However, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel said that Apple should be able to charge a commission based on \u201cnecessary costs,\u201d and Apple shared its proposal for fees in Thursday\u2019s filing. (The Supreme Court has also said it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/tech\/959837\/the-supreme-court-is-taking-up-epic-v-apple\">will hear arguments<\/a> about whether Apple willfully violated the April 2025 ruling.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">Under Apple\u2019s proposal, it would collect:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">However, Apple says its \u201cnecessary costs\u201d to allow external purchases, as defined by the Ninth Circuit, \u201cwould be essentially zero.\u201d The company argues that, based on an \u201cexpert analysis,\u201d at the proposed rates, \u201cit appears that large numbers of U.S. developers collectively accounting for the lion\u2019s share of App Store revenue will be able to link out profitably.\u201d Apple also says the rates would let it recoup \u201cat least some compensation\u201d for its tools, technologies, and services it provides to developers.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote class=\"duet--article--blockquote _1lkuyz80 _19wv7tc9\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup _1lkuyz88 _19wv7tc1\">Apple\u2019s filing is in, and Apple admitted that under the Ninth Circuit\u2019s definition of \u201cnecessary costs\u201d they would charge 0% for purchases made via linkouts to the web.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup _1lkuyz88 _19wv7tc1\">Apple proposed linkout fees of 15% for standard apps and 5% for Small Business Program apps. Epic believes these fees are far outside of the bounds of the Ninth Circuit\u2019s guidance on permissible fees, and we have roughly 60 days to file our opposition supported by expert witnesses.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/tech\/979967\/apple-epic-games-external-links-fees-filing\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a new filing in its long-running legal dispute with Epic Games, Apple has proposed a structure that would allow it to collect fees on digital purchases made via external links that don\u2019t use the company\u2019s in-app purchase system. 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