{"id":7041,"date":"2026-09-15T14:11:31","date_gmt":"2026-09-15T14:11:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=7041"},"modified":"2026-09-15T14:11:31","modified_gmt":"2026-09-15T14:11:31","slug":"the-big-interview-podcast-emily-st-john-mandel-exit-party","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=7041","title":{"rendered":"If the US Collapses Soon, Don\u2019t Blame Emily St. John Mandel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Yeah, you\u2019re from Canada too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>I think a lot about, what if I had just stayed in Calgary?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Yeah. Canada is a little more chill.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>It is a little more chill.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">See, now here we are, both extremely un-chill people in New York City.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>Yes, thriving.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Living our best lives. Extremely stressful lives, but here we are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Ari and Ibari, they grow up in different versions of a country. They are so profoundly shaped by that country. I saw Ari as somebody who\u2019s got this character flaw where she\u2019s fundamentally drawn toward crime. Maybe that\u2019s not even a flaw. Maybe it\u2019s just an interest, because there\u2019s a version of the world where she does the obvious thing and becomes a criminal, but there is another version of the world where she channels that into becoming the police. It was interesting to me to think about that, the way we might be drawn in one direction or another depending on the environment we\u2019re raised in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>I almost hate to ask this, because both versions of the US that you portray in the book are really frightening in their own respects. But did you find yourself drawn towards preferring one over another? Is there one version of this that you would rather live in?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">No, they\u2019re both really hard. They\u2019re both awful. The version I want to live in is Canada, candidly. It\u2019s like, do you want to live in chaos, or do you wanna live in a totalitarian police state? Hard pass on both.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">That\u2019s an idea I\u2019ve been thinking about a lot: no version of a country lasts forever, and there\u2019s both terror and hope in that idea. The totalitarian police state version\u2019s not going to last forever, and neither is the period of total chaos. What I wanted to suggest, and this is kind of a deep cut for people who have read a lot of my work, but in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/sea-of-tranquility-essay\/\" class=\"text link\"><em>Sea of Tranquility<\/em><\/a> there\u2019s a futuristic section where an author\u2019s on a book tour in the year 2300, and she\u2019s traveling between the Republic of California, the Atlantic Republic, and the Kingdom of Deseret, and it\u2019s chill enough to support a book tour, you know?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">But yeah, I kind of wanted to suggest that this is the founding story of that space.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>I wanted to ask you about your multiverse. You have a history that your diehards, your fans, really glom onto, which is you pull from previous works and you bring people and worlds into your new work, and that continues with <em>Exit Party<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>You\u2019ve talked about it as a multiverse, a cinematic universe. The New Yorker <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/culture\/persons-of-interest\/the-rewriting-of-emily-st-john-mandel\" class=\"text link\">called it<\/a>, quote, \u201cThe Mandel Cinematic Universe,\u201d which I think is pretty incredible. Is there a master plan here, or is it just ad hoc as inspiration strikes?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">I wish I could say I had the kind of brain that could hold an entire multiverse. I should just say yes, but, uh, no. There is no plan. That\u2019s the baseline for individual books when I start them, but also for The Mandel-verse, as some people have also called it. I don\u2019t have any kind of master plan that I\u2019m working towards. I just like the opportunities for connection. I guess I have some abstract longing for order in a chaotic universe, you know? I like finding the moments when books can be drawn together, or sometimes I just fall in love with a particular character, and I want to spend more time with that person.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/the-big-interview-podcast-emily-st-john-mandel-exit-party\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yeah, you\u2019re from Canada too. I think a lot about, what if I had just stayed in Calgary? Yeah. Canada is a little more chill. It is a little more chill. See, now here we are, both extremely un-chill people in New York City. Yes, thriving. Living our best lives. 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