{"id":9649,"date":"2026-10-30T09:57:28","date_gmt":"2026-10-30T09:57:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=9649"},"modified":"2026-10-30T09:57:28","modified_gmt":"2026-10-30T09:57:28","slug":"wikipedia-openai-new-york-times-copyright","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/silvybrand.com\/?p=9649","title":{"rendered":"Wikipedia\u2019s operator says a bad AI copyright ruling could threaten the open web"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"zephr-anchor\">\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">The Wikimedia Foundation is staking out a middle ground in a group of landmark AI copyright cases, pushing courts to legally protect large language models (LLMs) training on copyrighted work \u2014 but not chatbots regurgitating that work to users. An overly black-and-white ruling, it says, could either deprive Wikipedians of useful AI-based tools or endanger the open web.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">In an amicus brief filed Friday, the nonprofit behind Wikipedia weighed in on a set of lawsuits pitting publishers including <em>The New York Times<\/em> against OpenAI and Microsoft, taking neither side. \u201cWikimedia is concerned that the parties\u2019 positions in this case push for overbroad and simplified applications of the fair use doctrine\u201d around AI, the organization says in its legal filing. A nuance-free victory for publishers, it fears, could let copyright holders \u201cgatekeep\u201d even innovative and transformative uses of their work. On the other hand, a victory for AI companies could constitute \u201ca green light to snub licensing terms and fragment the flow of knowledge between human authors and audiences.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--block-placement _1xorkac2 _1xorkac0 duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-pullquote c39lj10\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup c39lj12 _19wv7tc9\">\u201cWikimedia is concerned that the parties\u2019 positions in this case push for overbroad and simplified applications of the fair use doctrine\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">The ruling could be existential for Wikipedia. Wikimedia websites \u201chave become one of the most critical sources of data for all artificial intelligence and machine learning training,\u201d the company says in the filing. But these same systems <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/801513\/even-wikipedia-is-hemorrhaging-traffic-to-ai\">siphon away visitors<\/a>, undermining the communities that maintain these sites. Wikimedia argues that they\u2019re also violating copyright: services like ChatGPT reproduce text that\u2019s licensed freely under Creative Commons, it says, but don\u2019t adhere to the terms of that license.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">At the same time, it says, the large language models that power these systems are useful to Wikipedia: they can help editors fight vandalism, detect copyright violations and doxxing, and look for articles that need improvement, among other uses.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">\u201cA ruling that does not apply fair use principles carefully could threaten the sustainability of free knowledge, and stifle the development of open source technologies, ultimately impacting access to information for everyone in both cases,\u201d Wikimedia Foundation general council Stephen LaPorte says in a statement. \u201cThe court needs to understand that Wikipedia is created through a collaborative process that requires a strong foundation of open and accessible human knowledge to thrive.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--block-placement _1xorkac2 _1xorkac0 duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-pullquote c39lj10\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup c39lj12 _19wv7tc9\">\u201cA ruling that does not apply fair use principles carefully could threaten the sustainability of free knowledge\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\"><em>The Times <\/em>argues for a more expansive definition of fair use as it applies to LLMs. It <a href=\"https:\/\/nytco-assets.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/NYT_Complaint_Dec2023.pdf\">alleges<\/a>, for example, that OpenAI infringed on its copyright by scraping its website to build training datasets. OpenAI and Microsoft both contend that using LLMs constitutes fair use. OpenAI <a href=\"https:\/\/openai.com\/index\/openai-and-journalism\/\">has said<\/a> that regurgitating work \u201cis a rare bug.\u201d Microsoft, in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/policy\/990267\/microsoft-openai-new-york-times-authors-lawsuit\">September filing<\/a>, says that expert analysis found that Copilot rarely reproduces full sentences from news content used to ground the model, which it said, \u201chardly undermines the transformative purpose of LLM training.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">Wikimedia proposes a compromise. Scraping websites shouldn\u2019t be considered copyright infringement, it argues, and using copyrighted works to pre-train LLMs without a license should constitute fair use when they provide \u201csomething new and different from the original sources,\u201d according to a blog post. But if these models pull copies of material in response to user queries, then deliver it to users \u201cwhile supplanting readers\u2019 engagement with those original works,\u201d that should require a license. The key difference is that in the latter case, AI output is simply substituting for the original work, and doesn\u2019t transform it enough to qualify as fair use.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">In those cases, Wikimedia says that AI companies should respect licensing requirements to use such information. For Wikipedia, this would mean crediting the original source of information under its Creative Commons license, which also requires \u201cany remix or adaptations\u201d to remain under that same license.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"duet--article--article-body-component\">\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1044qizi _18mzr4b1 _18mzr4b0 _19wv7tc1\">\u201cWe are taking a position in this case to defend the free and open human knowledge that Wikipedia depends on,\u201d Wikimedia CEO Bernadette Meehan says in a statement. \u201cExpanding access to knowledge through AI is a powerful goal, but it must respect the people, contributors, and communities that make reliable knowledge possible. 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